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Monday, 28 September 2015

What is Happening at Loos?



Tuesday 28th September 1915: The temporary commanding officer of the 2nd Battalion, Lieutenant-Colonel J C Monteith, has contacted us to tell us of his experiences in the last twenty four hours. He tells us his headquarters is in a dug-out sixteen feet below ground level: “The Huns know how to make themselves safe!”

As we heard from the 8th Bedfords yesterday the trenches around Loos are packed with men and there is often not enough room for units ordered to occupy certain locations. Colonel Onslow tells us that they have been ordered to relieve the 2nd Battalion, Wiltshire Regiment but there seems to be no room in the trenches to allow it. Anyway, he went to see the Wiltshire Regiment’s adjutant whom he found “very nervy and terribly anxious to get out of it”. This is because the position is “a rotten one”. He also spoke to the Commanding Officers of the units on either flank of the Wiltshires but found them “a little hazy as to proceedings”.

At this point the Colonel was interrupted by “panicky General Staff Officer - Robinson 1st Army - who thinks my arrangements for defence insufficient! He did not realise that I had a line in front! and further that it is the 4th or 5th line of defence! I forget what "he also" said or did now! Oh yes, he thinks Wiltshires are rather in the way!” This last was related to us in a weary but amused tone.

We understand that 8th Battalion has not moved since the evening of its abortive advance on the quarries in support of the Norfolk Regiment. Battles, of course, are, by their very nature, muddled and confusing. This particular operation, however, we sense from the officers we speak to, seems to be even more muddled than usual. In the two days since the initial attack and our army has made some gains, without achieving the break-through which was desired. It seem likely that the men, now greatly thinned in number and very tired, have achieved about as much as they can and that consolidation will be the next phase(1)

Source: X550/3/wd; X550/9/1

(1) The Battle of Loos would drag in stalemate until 13th October with a German counter-attack and British counter-counter-attack from 8th-13th October. British casualties would amount to 59,247, the Germans about 26,000. Lieutenant-Colonel Monteith himself would be killed on 1st October.

Sunday, 27 September 2015

The Battle of Loos – Second Day


The 7th Division Attack at Loos (Official History of the War - Military Operations in France and Belgium 1915 - Vol II)

Monday 27th September 1915: The battle of Loos entered its second day yesterday but 2nd Bedfords played little part in it. They were left to man Gun Trench until 8 pm when they were relieved and went back to the original German front line.

The 8th Battalion, nearby, forming part of 24th Division were ordered at 3 am yesterday morning to support 9th Battalion, Norfolk Regiment in an attack on the quarries [shown in yellow on the above plan] from which rifle fire hit the 2nd Battalion in their advance yesterday.

The morning was thick and misty. The Battalion advanced north from la Rutoire in open formation as far as the Vermelles road [shown in yellow on the above plan]. Their advance was four hours behind that of the Norfolks and when they came on trenches occupied by the Cameron Highlanders(1) they discovered that they knew nothing of the whereabouts of the Norfolks. Patrols were sent out but they failed to get in touch with the Norfolks.

All this while the 8th Bedfords were subjected to severe rifle and shell fire as well as gas bombs. After three hours as no news could be obtained of the Norfolks, so the Commanding Officer decided to reoccupy the front line British trenches, as the Cameron Highlanders stated there was no room in the captured enemy trenches.

On returning to the First Line British trenches the Battalion became somewhat separated owing to portions of the trench being occupied by other units. The Battalion was relieved about 6 pm and returned to Vermelles for the night where they bivouaced. Casualties received were two other ranks killed and Second Lieutenant A G Hodges and 23 other ranks wounded. Colonel E S C Kennedy and two other ranks were gassed(2).

We hope that this Battalion can overcome the disappointment of this somewhat farcical introduction to active service and achieve great things in the future(3).

Sadly we hear that the popular and able commander of 7th Division, Sir Thompson Capper is dead. He was wounded by a sniper yesterday, the bullet passing through both lungs and he died this morning, aged 51(4).

Source: X550/9/1


(1) Probably 1st/4th Battalion, Cameron Highlanders of 21st Brigade, 7th Division (the same Brigade as 2nd Bedfords).
(2) These light casualties contrast strikingly with the 9th Norfolks, who had 64 dead that day.
(3) 8th Battalion do not seem to have been a lucky unit and, by contrast with 7th Battalion, for example, would have a frustrating war.

(4) he is buried in Lillers Communal Cemetery.